Ouch, those three threads were a hot mess and< cl-VPD >
mostly caused by staff's choices in settings for filtering techniques and the effects of peers trying to help OPs adjust for them, IMHO. It's not like it hasn't been a recurring minor issue for providing/asking for help or discussion, but that was its results in a worse way... especially in "peer-help" forums, where "use" ought to be easier, not more difficult. :-(